Put on Suboxone

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sonicwhite
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Okay guys it’s been a long time. Howdy! Wulp I’ve had a nasty addiction to opiates ever since I’ve been a member but it would come and go. But in the last two yrs it has gotten very nasty. Like everyday habit and screwing up PM lives because I would want to escape my PTSD symptoms.

So I went to a sub doc who put me on sixteen mg of Suboxone a day. I didn’t like the side effects so when I went to go see him a week later I told them I just needed eight mg a day.

Wulp it works wonderfully for someone who wants to kick the habit. But I know now I should of stayed at that sixteen mg a day. I don’t want to be like those who end up on higher doses thus making it almost impossible to come off of.

And I’ve been having a lot of pain but always feared going to pain management doctor because it would be the thing that killed me.

I notice that subs help with pain too. Can anyone give me advice on Suboxone for a drug habit. I really am tired of opiates and want to help those who need them by getting clean.

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Good to see you

A few of us are still here.
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At dr..its packed

I would like to see the board hopping with posts like the old days.
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Has sub knowledge..

sonicwhite
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Well probably either ppl

Well probably either ppl died. Or got the help they needed. I know I just stopped because I started dabbling in other things. Now I have a problem with other things but mainly addiction. I moved to TN back in February and moved back to Oklahoma.

While in TN they yanked me off of klonopin on mg three times a day. I had to grand mal seizures. In TN they wait until you’re on you death bed before they help you. I fired my doc got back on klonopin after three months of sheer torture of withdrawal. Weaned myself to .25 once a day.

I’m going to get a new pdoc and wean as slowly as I can. I think gabapentin can ease the anxiety I have. If I knew then what I know now I would of never gotten on a benzo. But they do help ppl I admit.

Now that I’m prone to seizures I just try to think about my health rather then getting wasted.

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good going

CoolTongue OutDera sonicwhite, sounds like you know where your headed.I went through a ???$* as well,the forces that be took me off of Valium 40mgs a day (since 1982)and that was fun,but made a deal in order to obtain my pain medicne.I would not wait for anyone with sub knowlage except for the person Goat said.Check out some extremely intersting sites and posts online re:Suboxone use.Good luck and fair roads to ya,Peace,RD

sonicwhite
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Thanks guys. I know it’s not

Thanks guys. I know it’s not safe using a sub and a benzo at the same time. But I have to wean as slowly as possible with my klonopin. I’m not going through the sheer ???$* I went thro last March to July. I refuse to do that again.

Other than that I think Suboxone use correctly is a miracle med. It doesn’t get me high. It motivates me. Takes away some of the pain I go thru. Takes away the cravings. But I know it’s going to have its own host of withdrawals itself.

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Suboxone

Has a ceiling effect when used for pain, typically 4 mg or less per day. 2 mg or less is typically used for pain, and even treating addiction. It seems from my reading and research, higher doses are unnecessary, and seem to make tapering suboxone that much harder when the time comes. Even when used to treat addiction, the lowest possible dose that eliminates most of the symptoms of withdrawal should be used,for a short period of time and then tapered off as soon as possible. Suboxone is also an opioid, mixed with naloxone.
If possible, I would try to reduce your dosage as low as possible , especially with your taking klonopin on top of it.
I can understand wanting off the opiates, but suboxone has it's own set of problems and prolonged time on it, too high dosing complicates getting off it.

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Hey, Sonic   I apologize for

Hey, Sonic

   I apologize for not seeing this until now. I was on Suboxone for quite a few years when, inexplicably, my pain Dr who was prescribing the Suboxone (for pain) cut me loose for having Klonopin in my system. The weird part is that for the previous 9 years I had been going to him, the benzodiazepines were never even an issue since they were prescribed by my psychiatrist for panic disorder. All 9 years, every test I took had Klonopin in it. I'm still unsure as to why, all of a sudden, it became such a huge issue to him. The best I can figure is that, due to insurance changes, I no longer became profitable to him. Instead of shots at least once every six months, I had a full year without any because my insurance would not approve them. 

As for the dosing for pain, the dosing is much more in line with that of normal prescription pain meds, versus the once a day dosing for addiction issues. I was on 8mg three times a day, which sounds absurd- and it is, if I were being treated for opiate addiction. Opioid addicted individuals, more or less, just need the opioid receptors bound to an opioid in order to thwart withdrawal symptoms. Pain patients, however, need a more steady supply of Buprenorphine because of pain. To be 100% honest, I was never doing as well in life as I was for the years I was on Suboxone. My mind was "clear", and I really dug that. Now, on Norco with a new pain doc, every day seems to start behind the 8-ball. If it's not the pain, it's the mini-withdrawals between doses. 

Regarding the withdrawals from Suboxone: don't psyche yourself out with worry. My own personal experience, due to the aforementioned flustercuck of circumstances, was that compared to "regular" opioids, the Suboxone was much easier to deal with. 

If you have any questions, by all means, shoot me a message or post it here. I will try to be around here more often, but the board has been pretty stagnant the past couple of years.

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Benzos oked again

Dear gtrplayer Benzos are once more ok I read this last week.The CDC put out a a statement saying benzos are cool if on Suboxone,find out on web.RD

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Well. . . Technically, what

Well. . . Technically, what they said was that patients should not be excluded from buprenorphine or methadone clinics just because they test positive for benzodiazepines. Their thinking is such that an addict will continue to use the benzodiazepines anyhow, so the doctors should mitigate that risk with appropriate doses of Buprenorphine or methadone.

Rocker Dan
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true this

Yes, gtrplayer you have it .verbatum.I just want a lot of people on valium.It is good for you.I` am having a really difficult time with my myoclonic jerking and called my doctor(s)and told them I need at least 10mgs a day of diazepam to stop twitching.As long as my GP doctor gives me them I think my pain med doctor will be cool, I sure hope,cannot sleep but a few minutes before being jolted awake.